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S.Bretz wrote:Your point of spinning tires and getting on over estimated out put is errelivant as that case would fall under the guides of "not using the tool properly."
Most cars where the owner cares about power will spin the wheels in second when you put your foot flat to the floor, even from a rolling start. If your foot isn't flat to the floor you aren't measuring maximum power.

You could do the run in 3rd or 4th, but then you've just introduced a far larger wind resistance (wind resistance is proportianal to V^2) and so will undershoot actual horsepower.
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This isnt a way that will get you HP numbers, but the way i used to get my tune right on my honda was to make a pull in 3rd from 4k rpms till it hit the chip, then i'd see how long it took in the datalog to see if i was making a hp improvement.

Im sure theirs a way to calculate horsepower based on a rate of acceleration, combined with gear ratios and wind resistance and vehicle weight. I just dont know how.
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This isnt a way that will get you HP numbers, but the way i used to get my tune right on my honda was to make a pull in 3rd from 4k rpms till it hit the chip, then i'd see how long it took in the datalog to see if i was making a hp improvement.

Im sure theirs a way to calculate horsepower based on a rate of acceleration, combined with gear ratios and wind resistance. I just dont know how.




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This isnt a way that will get you HP numbers, but the way i used to get my tune right on my honda was to make a pull in 3rd from 4k rpms till it hit the chip, then i'd see how long it took in the datalog to see if i was making a hp improvement.

Im sure theirs a way to calculate horsepower based on a rate of acceleration, combined with gear ratios and wind resistance. I just dont know how.




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rs2000 wrote:
S.Bretz wrote:Your point of spinning tires and getting on over estimated out put is errelivant as that case would fall under the guides of "not using the tool properly."
Most cars where the owner cares about power will spin the wheels in second when you put your foot flat to the floor, even from a rolling start. If your foot isn't flat to the floor you aren't measuring maximum power.

You could do the run in 3rd or 4th, but then you've just introduced a far larger wind resistance (wind resistance is proportianal to V^2) and so will undershoot actual horsepower.
YOu would want to do it in 3rd or 4th gear..its better for datalog to pick up more accurate numbers as the rat of the acceleration of the rpms it less....and yes, there is wind resistance, but you can also calculates that based on the crossestional ares of the front of the car.

If its accuracy that you are loking for, then this is not for you....what it is a decent means of creating something that it pretty consistant. ALl you need to do is find a safe stretch of road and o a couple pulls after modification have been made....what you are looking for really is more a change in the shape of the power curve, not you peak numbers genrated.....but agian that would fall under the guides of know how to use a tool, or not to.
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rs2000 wrote:
S.Bretz wrote:
Your point of spinning tires and getting on over estimated out put is errelivant as that case would fall under the guides of "not using the tool properly."
Most cars where the owner cares about power will spin the wheels in second when you put your foot flat to the floor, even from a rolling start. If your foot isn't flat to the floor you aren't measuring maximum power.

You could do the run in 3rd or 4th, but then you've just introduced a far larger wind resistance (wind resistance is proportianal to V^2) and so will undershoot actual horsepower.
YOu would want to do it in 3rd or 4th gear..its better for datalog to pick up more accurate numbers as the rat of the acceleration of the rpms it less....and yes, there is wind resistance, but you can also calculates that based on the crossestional ares of the front of the car.




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Being an automatic guy, I would prefer to do all these calcs based on VSS.

The extra ini file already has pretty much everything your looking for in it, but I believe it is based on VSS.
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Being an automatic guy, I would prefer to do all these calcs based on VSS.

The extra ini file already has pretty much everything your looking for in it, but I believe it is based on VSS.

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there was a piece of software called "streetdyno" i believe that did all of this already, it just needed a couple of inputs. Both myself and ian (http://www.qksltwo.com) ran this and it proved to be pretty accurate.

*think i found it: http://www.tweecer.com/StreetDyno/downloads.html
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there was a piece of software called "streetdyno" i believe that did all of this already, it just needed a couple of inputs. Both myself and ian (http://www.qksltwo.com) ran this and it proved to be pretty accurate.

*think i found it: http://www.tweecer.com/StreetDyno/downloads.html
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