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Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 8:10 am
by the bubbler
The Honda Zoomer pump draws about 1A according to the Honda website.
They built it with the deliberate intention of reducing current consumption- the PGM FI system has to be able to fire using kick start in case of a flat battery or knackered starter.
Still 2A or 24 watts is not an unreasonable current draw.
Unfortunately the cost of Honda spares off the shelf is horrendous. The only other alternative is to keep searching ebay for scrapped bikes. The Zoomer is very new, so you'd be looking for one involved in a smash.
There are some small two stroke DI pumps as used on the Aprilia 50cc scooters.
However these tend to pump at higher pressure than required for port injection. Perhaps they could be modified for four stroke use?
Something like this-
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/KATANA-R-LC-INJEC ... dZViewItem
Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 9:45 am
by frez
I'm gonna try the aprilia sr50 fuel pump I just bought and give feedbacks to you guys. Hopefully it won't have a big current draw... and yes the fuel pumps from honda cost a lot (had a price around 300 euros)
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 1:52 am
by the bubbler
The Aprilia pump (synerject piston pump) draws about 0.7A according to Orbital. Can also pump upto 7.5 bar, so use a port injection regulator.
I think you'll be fine with this pump suitable for engines upto 7.5kw.
Andy
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 9:31 am
by mrbell
I attempted to post yesterday, but I don't see it, so here we go again:
Has anyone had any luck locating a sub-2A(1A, preferably) draw fuel pump? I don't think the Aprilla will work for me, but the delphi and keihin units look nice... but I can't find them available anywhere. Anyone else find something?
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 11:09 am
by the bubbler
Why are you sceptical about the aprilia unit?
It's ideal in terms of power consumption (about 1A)
The unit I have for my Isetta EFI project is from a Peugeot Jetforce 125.
It's a rotary vane pump of Siemens/Synerject origin, and draws about 24 watts at 12 volts, which is on the upper end of what you want.
Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 8:51 am
by mrbell
Well... from your math, the aprilla will supply about a third of the fuel I'm looking for. I'm looking for something to work on the 30-40hp range.
The delphi unit looks most appealing, but they don't seem to be available...
Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 4:03 pm
by toon2
has anyone turned up anything? I am looking for the same thing size wise current draw is not as important.
What type of F.P. do the sportbikes use?
Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 4:45 pm
by the bubbler
Well if current draw isn't such an issue, then just go to a scrappy and pick out any pump from a small hatchback.
It doesn't matter if it flows a little more, the excess will return back to the tank.
Andy
Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 5:31 pm
by toon2
physically, how big are they?
Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 5:24 am
by the bubbler
Well they vary, but most pumps of that output won't be any longer than 4", with a range between 3-4", and a diameter somewhere between 1-2". Most of the pumps will be the kind that fit inside tanks, as this is the direction most OEMS have been going in for some time.
You may find older installations have external pumps, if that is what you are after, but I can't help with any recommendations I'm afraid.
Andy