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AFR table generator perhaps?
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 6:36 am
by arny528
I believe it wouldn't be hard to do, it might use a slightly modified VE generator because it would be based on max torque and max power areas and calculate the rest in a similar fashion. Probably some stuff should be entered, like desired AFR's in idle and cruise areas.
Or maybe it could be derived from an existing VE table? Is the VE formula close enough to derive AFR's, or it should be derived by another interpolation method?
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:23 am
by Leistung Elektronik
lance wrote:
Finally, for boosted engines, you subtract 0.3° of advance for every kPa above 100 (it's not a coincidence that this is the same factor as for the 'vacuum' adjustments). Because 101.3kPa=~14.7psi, this works out to ~2° per pound of boost. It is often the case that you want to limit the retard under boost as well, typically so that it takes out no more than about ½ of the maximum advance at 100 kPa.
Lance.
Hi Lance,
I don´t understand because you substract to much advance degrees when the engine ist under boost. We run a 1.6 L Fiat engine under 30 PSI of boost with 22° final and no detonation. What ist wrong?? Have you considered any CR (9:1 ; 10:1 ; etc) ?
I apreciate your help, because i´m trying to find a simple metod for make a start advance table for boosted engines.
Thanks
IAT and timing
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 6:40 am
by preston
It doesn't appear that MSII can alter timing based on IAT. Isn't this pretty common on the normal aftermarket EFI setups ?
Is anyone working on adding this ? (why or why not ?)
I've heard rule of thumb there is -1 degree per every 10 degrees above 120.
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 10:44 am
by Bernard Fife
It doesn't appear that MSII can alter timing based on IAT.
Preston,
It would be pretty easy to change the code to make the current CLT based spark adjustment be based on IAT instead. It would be a good project for someone to 'get their feet wet' in MS-II programming.
Lance.
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:23 am
by mad max
Leistung Elektronik wrote:lance wrote:
Finally, for boosted engines, you subtract 0.3° of advance for every kPa above 100 (it's not a coincidence that this is the same factor as for the 'vacuum' adjustments). Because 101.3kPa=~14.7psi, this works out to ~2° per pound of boost. It is often the case that you want to limit the retard under boost as well, typically so that it takes out no more than about ½ of the maximum advance at 100 kPa.
Lance.
Hi Lance,
I don´t understand because you substract to much advance degrees when the engine ist under boost. We run a 1.6 L Fiat engine under 30 PSI of boost with 22° final and no detonation. What ist wrong?? Have you considered any CR (9:1 ; 10:1 ; etc) ?
I apreciate your help, because i´m trying to find a simple metod for make a start advance table for boosted engines.
Thanks
read this:
http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/resources/myths.php
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:51 am
by Leistung Elektronik
Thanks, i have read it! But it have no information about CR, timing...just a few words about peak pressure and others.
Have you any information about a site with more specific information.
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 8:15 pm
by burgo90
does anyone know anywhere on the net i can get excel??
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 8:57 pm
by TT350chevelle
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 9:16 pm
by burgo90
yes i downloaded that but its only a viewer so i cant put my own values in to create my own table
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 3:55 am
by Kirk
burgo90 wrote:yes i downloaded that but its only a viewer so i cant put my own values in to create my own table
Try
http://www.OpenOffice.org. OpenOffice is a free office suite that appears to handle this MS Office spreadsheet.