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Setup for injectors characteristics

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 9:48 am
by SCIROCCO53
What is the best startup value for injectors?

MS-I V3 manboard, MSnS-E 24s13c, low ohms injectors (Audi s4 inj 346cc), Etanol E85 1900cc engine with superscharger and 10-12psi boost.

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 9:51 am
by ochizon
dont your injectors fire 4 times per cycle?
(4 cyl engine?)

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 10:41 am
by SCIROCCO53
ochizon wrote:dont your injectors fire 4 times per cycle?
(4 cyl engine?)
Why should I inject 4 times per cycle? the engine only fire one cyl per cycle :?:

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 12:55 pm
by 78Spit1500Fed
A 4-cylinder motor will fire all four cylinders per cycle (720°)

Regardless of the settings in the window shown above, the entire quantity of fuel required for a complete cycle will be injected in that cycle, regardless of the number of times it's injected.

What I'm getting at is that is if the REQ_FUEL is right, the motor will run regardless of how many times it squirts or if it's alternating or simultaneous.

How the motor will run BEST is determined by your specific upper/lower intake/valve head/combustion chamber/injector placement. These settings you can play with to find the best of the best!

-Brian

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 4:29 pm
by ochizon
SCIROCCO53 wrote:
ochizon wrote:dont your injectors fire 4 times per cycle?
(4 cyl engine?)
Why should I inject 4 times per cycle? the engine only fire one cyl per cycle :?:
isnt a cycle 720 degree rotation on the crank? The engine fires a cyle every 180 degrees of the crank. That means all 4 cyl fire once per cycle (if I am right about the 720, that is...)

Can someone verify/negate?

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 6:23 pm
by 78Spit1500Fed
ochizon wrote:isnt a cycle 720 degree rotation on the crank? The engine fires a cyle every 180 degrees of the crank. That means all 4 cyl fire once per cycle (if I am right about the 720, that is...)

Can someone verify/negate?
Yes. A four-stroke even fire four-cylinder motor fires all four cylinders in one 720 degree cycle. (180 degrees between each cylinder's compression stroke.)

-Brian

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 11:24 pm
by SCIROCCO53
But about the PWM settings?

Copy from: Tuning Your MegaSquirt


"If you have low impedance injectors (less than 4 Ohms), set the:

PWM Time Threshold to 1.0 msec, and
PWM Current Limit to 75%(30% if you have installed the 'Flyback Board' daughter card)."


"Note that with port injection, you must choose at at least 2 squirts per cycle with alternating injection, otherwise every other cycle for each cylinder will get NO fuel! The engine will run very badly."

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 8:21 am
by 78Spit1500Fed
SCIROCCO53 wrote:But about the PWM settings?...
I think you answered your own question:
MegaManual wrote:"If you have low impedance injectors (less than 4 Ohms), set the:

PWM Time Threshold to 1.0 msec, and
PWM Current Limit to 75%(30% if you have installed the 'Flyback Board' daughter card)."
What is unclear about this instruction?

Your original post says:
SIROCCO53 wrote:MS-I V3 manboard, MSnS-E 24s13c, low ohms injectors (Audi s4 inj 346cc)
I don't know what "low ohms" means, but the settings are right there in black and white.

-Brian