microsquirt still not firing

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109e
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microsquirt still not firing

Post by 109e »

HI, still new to this and pulling my hair out, last ditch attempt at getting it to fire then i am selling the lot, engine microsquirt the lot lol.
I have a 2.0 zetec running wasted spark non edis module standard efi basically a standard zetec minus oem ecu.
All plugged in and occasionally connects to laptop, since reflashing the code its tempremental, anyway the main problem is i cannot get it to fire, the engine speed cranks between 2500 and 8000 rpm, the tach pulse gauge counts the pulses until it resets so i guess i have something going on, i know the rpm is way to high to start but i cannot get it to stabilise, pulled the timer plug on the vr, took vr sensor out, put it back reconnected same again, change wires to vr nothing changed, same readings, i thought that would have changed,i have noticed that output 2 doesnt register any voltage but output 1 does, this seems odd to me, i would have thought that both would be the same..either voltage or no voltage(?) Any ideas about my problems?
Chris...going balder by the reset !
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Re: need to flash code back to microsquirt

Post by grippo »

If you are using standard ignition, then there is only one ignition output. This mode is meant to fire with a distributor, which only has one ignition input. You need to use dual spark mode with a 4 cylinder dual coil wasted spark setup.

But you also have a bad rpm, probably meaning you also have VR sensor problems. Try configuring it with dual spark and try it. If that doesn't help, we need to see your msq.
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Re: microsquirt still not firing

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Please post a copy of your MSQ file and a data log of an attempted start.
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109e
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Re: microsquirt still not firing

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Matt with all due respect...how do i do that? In megatune i go to datalog and press record? then crank the engine and save? but then how do i transfer that to the forum, apologies but very new to this.
chris
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Re: microsquirt still not firing

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Matt is this it?
Chris
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Re: microsquirt still not firing

Post by Matt Cramer »

That is a valid data log. You don't appear to be getting an RPM signal and your MAP reading is way too high.

I will also need the MSQ file - that's the file you get when you go to File -> Save As while connected to the Microsquirt.
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109e
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Re: microsquirt still not firing

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Matt is this anygood?
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109e
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Re: need to flash code back to microsquirt

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HI, its a wasted spark setup, theres no option for wasted spark in the default msq, do i need to set input to dual tach input? Took vr sensor out checked wiring all seems fine, i wired it as per efi's description, but to verify, coming out of the ecu is a grey cable with IGN on it, this is a coax with a white cable running thru it, the kit is supplied with a length of black sleeving inside which is a coax containing a red cable and a blue cable, i disregarded the blue cable, linked the red and white together and fitted to the positive terminal on the mini timer connector, the coax i linked together and connected that to the negative/ground side of connector, providing this is correct what else should i look out for?
Many thanks, Chris
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Re: microsquirt still not firing

Post by Matt Cramer »

That is the file I needed. However, you will need to enable dual spark and wheel decoding, then set it up for a 36-1 wheel. Dual spark settings are explained here, and let me know if you have any questions. Do you have the VR input wired to your crankshaft position sensor?
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109e
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Re: microsquirt still not firing

Post by 109e »

Matt
VR sensor is connected,using coax covered wire with coax to ground pin on sensor, No wheel decoder option in megatune for the msq i have, so in ignition options am i right in saying i set the wheel as 36 teeth, missing 1, skip 9, and delay i am not sure of, do i set single crank input or do i connect something to the cam sensor and then set as dual tach inputs. Is there no base msq for a wasted spark 4 pot that i can download and atleast get the car started? Then i would know whether the problem lies in the wiring or the msq
Chris.
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